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Posted: April 26 2009 at 4:49pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

I have grown a plant, and I'm wondering if it's a eggplant. If the stem is purple, does that mean it's a eggplant?   
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Posted: April 26 2009 at 7:02pm | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

Not necessarily, as there are many plants in many families that have purple or red stems.  Having no further information to go on it would be impossible to determine just what your plant is.  I did find this very informative article in Wikipedia on the  Eggplant that you might want to read/study.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggplant

If you could give us more to go on,. we might be able to identify your plant for you. To start is this a fruit bearing plant, a vegetable or an ornamental or flowering plant.  If the latter is it annual, bi-annual or perennial in growth habit?

I have some fancy Coleus that have red top purple stems and I have Daylilies that have this dark pigmentation around the base of the new fans.

Sorry I couldn't  give you the answer you wanted.



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Here is a photo of an eggplant.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Eggplant_%28Flower%29.jpg




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Posted: April 28 2009 at 5:55pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

Thank you so much for answering my posts.  Please tell me if this is eggplant of Bell peppers.

Here are some pictures of what I have:



 



 



 



 

Thanks again!

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Posted: April 28 2009 at 6:36pm | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

I really want to say these are pepper plants since I know there is a purple variety of bell pepper. However, the young leaves of an Eggplant can look a lot like those of peppers, but there is one test that should be very definitive and that is leaf texture. Eggplant have a soft covering of fine "hairs" while peppers have a smooth, shiny, somewhat waxy leaf.

So check the texture of those leaves and if they are soft and fuzzy, you have eggplant and if they are smooth you have peppers!


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Posted: April 28 2009 at 6:43pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

Wow, Rebecca...thank you so much.  I'm checking it out right now.

ETA: ok, I'm back...I think its peppers because the leaves are not with "hair" they are like you stated.

I will take more pics as they grow and will show them to you.

Thank you so much for all your help.  I so appreciate it.

 

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Posted: April 29 2009 at 1:45pm | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

You're very welcome, glad I could help!


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Posted: May 01 2009 at 6:49pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

Hi to my friends on this site! I brought my plants to a friends house and I saw the fuzz on the eggplant leaves.

I was so happy I didn't know what to do. Also, I saw 2 sprouts from my tomato cups! I saw the fuzz on the leaves in diffused light.

Please write back to me. One thing I can tell you is, the stem on the eggplant is dark purple!          ; ;           ; ; 

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Posted: May 01 2009 at 10:16pm | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

Does not surprise me that the stem on your eggplant seedling(s) are purple. Now are these in addition to the pepper plants or did you just not notice the "fuzz" on the leaves before?

Oh and tomato plants can have the tiny hairs as well, but one tell tale sign for a tomato plant is that even at a young age they can smell like a tomato! Pretty cool huh!?!


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Posted: May 16 2009 at 4:41pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

Rebecca wrote:
Does not surprise me that the stem on your eggplant seedling(s) are purple. Now are these in addition to the pepper plants or did you just not notice the "fuzz" on the leaves before?

Oh and tomato plants can have the tiny hairs as well, but one tell tale sign for a tomato plant is that even at a young age they can smell like a tomato! Pretty cool huh!?!


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Hi again,

Here are the pics of the seedlings from a few weeks ago.  The first one is either an apple, pear, lemon or orange tree.  I didn't label any of them when I planted them.  The second one is the one I questioned if its an eggplant or pepper.  It's two and half weeks older now, maybe you have a better idea of what it is.

Rebecca or anyone, please help me out with this.  This is my first time growing anything and I would love for someone to help me.





 

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Posted: May 16 2009 at 5:01pm | IP Logged Quote Judyannz7

The second one looks like a pepper to me.  I can't say about the first one, so maybe it is a lemon.  I've never grown lemon trees.

Are you feeling like a farmer yet?    It is exciting to see the "life" in seeds, isn't it?



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Posted: May 16 2009 at 6:39pm | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

Judy Ann has the second one spot on for you, that is definitely a pepper plant.

Now that first one is NOT either of the citrus trees, wrong type leaf.  I want to say it is an apple, but they can look some much like pear treas at this stage it is hard for me to tell the difference. Pear tree leaves tend to be wider than apple trees, but like I said it's very early to know for sure. If this is an apple or a pear tree they are northern hardy and may take as long as 5 to 7 years to get big enough to bear fruit.

FYI, citrus tree leaves are very shiny/glossy and smooth edged.  As they get older the foliage takes on a waxy appearance and thickness, although not succulent. Being from the tropical areas of the US and South America they can not tolerate cold and are easily frost damaged.  They do make for and interesting house plant, at least until they get too big to drag in and out each spring/fall! Ben there, done that!  Now I just have a hard enough time with the tropical Hibiscus trees I have. I've got all but two trained as standards and they still get out of bounds!

I have flower buds on my Chocolate Cherry Tomatoe plants now and I recently saw shoots coming up from potatoes I planted in big tubs of compost because the potatoes had sprouted on me before I could eat them!  So now I'll grow some new ones!

Hey, did you know you can plant potato sets with tomato plants, in the same hole and they will both benefit from having the soil continually hoed up around the growing stems.  The potatoes put out more tubers and the tomato plants more roots which in turn make the plant sturdier and able to bear more fruits.

What all do you have growing now, Jaz?



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Posted: May 18 2009 at 11:42pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

Judyannz7 wrote:

The second one looks like a pepper to me.  I can't say about the first one, so maybe it is a lemon.  I've never grown lemon trees.

Are you feeling like a farmer yet?    It is exciting to see the "life" in seeds, isn't it?

Oh, thank you so much, Judyann!  I so appreciate you responding to my post.  I'm such a newbie at this, so thank you for your answers.

 

...no, not a farmer yet...although i would love to at least have my first garden this year.  As I progress, I will take pics and post them here for you ladies...you know to get your approval

Thanks again!

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Posted: May 18 2009 at 11:47pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

Before long, you will have me on track, Rebecca...that's for sure!

Thank you for being soooo patient with me.  This is my first time doing anything like this and I have so many questions.  My wife can't help me because she only knows about flowers and plants, not veggies or fruits, so she is learning from you all along with me.

I appreciate the lesson...you know your stuff

I will continue to take pics.  It has been so cold here in NY, so I don't know when I'm suppose to plant these babies...but, I'm sure I will learn as I go along.

Thanks again!

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Judy Ann has the second one spot on for you, that is definitely a pepper plant.

Now that first one is NOT either of the citrus trees, wrong type leaf.  I want to say it is an apple, but they can look some much like pear treas at this stage it is hard for me to tell the difference. Pear tree leaves tend to be wider than apple trees, but like I said it's very early to know for sure. If this is an apple or a pear tree they are northern hardy and may take as long as 5 to 7 years to get big enough to bear fruit.

FYI, citrus tree leaves are very shiny/glossy and smooth edged.  As they get older the foliage takes on a waxy appearance and thickness, although not succulent. Being from the tropical areas of the US and South America they can not tolerate cold and are easily frost damaged.  They do make for and interesting house plant, at least until they get too big to drag in and out each spring/fall! Ben there, done that!  Now I just have a hard enough time with the tropical Hibiscus trees I have. I've got all but two trained as standards and they still get out of bounds!

I have flower buds on my Chocolate Cherry Tomatoe plants now and I recently saw shoots coming up from potatoes I planted in big tubs of compost because the potatoes had sprouted on me before I could eat them!  So now I'll grow some new ones!

Hey, did you know you can plant potato sets with tomato plants, in the same hole and they will both benefit from having the soil continually hoed up around the growing stems.  The potatoes put out more tubers and the tomato plants more roots which in turn make the plant sturdier and able to bear more fruits.

What all do you have growing now, Jaz?



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Posted: May 19 2009 at 8:22am | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

Jaz,

Yep, spring has certainly been a yo-yo in NY, all through zone 5 and 4 in fact, so I understand your confusion.  I just moved all of my "houseplants" out yesterday except for some small sun coleus seedlings and 3 or 4 that just do not go outside!  Still have a few upstairs.  I don't have enough shady places to put things to "harden them off" so I know several of my Tropical Hibiscus will have leaf burn, but that is something that can be dealt with and new , thicker foliage will replace the soft winter foliage in no time.

The trick is to be able to "harden off" all of your seedlings before planting them in the ground. You do this by first placing them in a shady spot with some protection from strong winds.  After a few days you move them into a little more light; you do this several times (every few days) until they are in full sun. Give them the full sun for 3 to 4 days and don't forget to keep them watered.  If there should be any frost warnings, cover the plants or bring them inside for the night. (I have used heavy mil plastic sheeting even on seedlings already getting full sun with great success.) You must remove the "cover" before they get too hot though!

You really do need to get your tree seedlings and veggies hardened off as soon as possible so you can get them in the ground. If you have to once the plants are in the ground you can cover them with what is called a "floating row cover" (http://www.gardeners.com/Garden-Fabric/5111,default,pg.html). Using one of these will really extend your growing season.

I would pot the tree seedling into the next size larger pot and if you can get "tree pots", use them. You will need to "move them on" as growth indicates and always into the next larger size pot. You will not need to bring your tree seedling inside as they will need their winter dormancy. You should however protect them with a heavy layer of mulch around and over the pots. Also move them to a wall with a southern exposure, this helps protect against wind as well as keeping them just a little warmer.  When your seedling reach 18 to 24 inches tall you should plant them out and use small cages to protect them from animal damage. Mother Earth News has a good article that you might want to read:  Growing Trees from Seed
It has some good info although it is geared toward Peach trees there is info that pertains to all types of trees.

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Posted: May 24 2009 at 3:08pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

   Hi Rebecca, I'm happy for your help and I'm grateful! My plants are doing very well, and I'm excited about what I have. Your're right about the pepper plants, thats what they are. I have 4 of them, I also have 4 tomato plants. I also believe I have a baby pear tree. The plant I really wanted was the eggplant! I've tried so hard to grow them but, I've had no success, no matter what I tried. I really wanted to grow everything from a seed, I even put the seeds in the napkins and wet them and that didn't work as well. If theres anything you can tell me to get my eggplant going, I'd appreciate your help.Please answer back soon.  
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Posted: May 24 2009 at 7:41pm | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

Jaz,

I'm afraid the only vegetable I have much knowledge of growing from seed (sown early, indoors) is good old tomatoes!  I did do a quick search for you and came up with this tid bit:

sow the eggplant seed sow the seed evenly. i perfer not to cover the seed but if you want you can cover the seed lightly with germination mix. Then take the flat of newly sowed seeds and mist the entire flat and put the flat on the propagation mat at a temperature of 70-75 degrees.

It usually takes about 5- 10 days for the seed to germinate.

http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-grow-egg-plant-from-seed

or, try these from Answers.com:

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=HOw+to+grow+Eggplant+f rom+seed&gwp=13



These take a long time from seed to harvest so you would probably be better off buying a couple of plants. I do understand your desire to want to grow all your own veggies from seed to finished product, but some items are best if someone else does the growing of seeds and you take over with the transplants.

I decided to grow a tomato plant this year, more to see if I still could than any other reason.  I don't have yard space so it has to grow in a large container and since it is only me, I figured a cherry tomato would do for me.  So I went to Park Seed and found this interesting Chocolate Cherry Tomato seed, purchased a packet and sowed all of three seeds thinking I would cull the puny ones.  There weren't any puny ones and all three germinated. One plant is enough for me so I gave the other two to my neighbors.  My plant and the one at my nearest neighbors have blooms already, so we shall soon be eating cherry tomatoes.

After growing these tiny tomato seedlings into decent sized transplants I had a few potatoes sprout on me, so I sliced them up into "sets" with good eyes and planted 3 "sets" to each of two very large tubs I filled with compost and sweepings from my potting area.  I also have 6 potato plants up and growing in their tubs.  That wasn't enough so I plants a few more "sets" in a corner of a temporary daylily bed and a good many of them have also come up.  I should have plenty of potatoes for my own needs this fall!

Others may have more experience with growing various veggies from seed that I do - sure wouldn't take much! And hopefully they will reply. Be sure you are clicking on all the links I have been adding and following them on to even more information.

Sorry I wasn't as helpful with the Eggplant problem.


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Posted: May 25 2009 at 3:28am | IP Logged Quote Sooby

I've grow eggplants from seed, the primary difficulty with them is germination (and growing) temperature, it needs to be higher than for most other veggie seeds. The other possibility is that the seeds were not viable (alive, mature enough and capable of germination). Were they harvested from a supermarket eggplant, or purchased in a packet?

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Your baby fruit tree looks more like an apple than a pear to me.

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    Hi Sue, Thank you so much for replying to my posting. Well, I can tell that maybe I didn't get the seeds from the right place. I got the seeds from 2 really nice supermarkets eggplants. I let the seeds have time to dry out for about a year. I picked the best seeds out of the bunch. Tell me, did I pick the seeds from the wrong source? Please get back to me as soon as you can. Jaz!!!!!

 

                                                                                 

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Elaine wrote:

Your baby fruit tree looks more like an apple than a pear to me.

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HI Elaine, Thank you so much for your reply. I'm so happy that you told me what it looks like to you. I've gone on very good sites, and I could'nt find anything that came very close, so I hope I'm in the ballpark with what I believe it is. I did mark the cup and I wrote, apple seed or pear seed. Write back and let me know if you can find a picture and I will show you new pics of the pear or apple tree.     Jaz!!! !!!!!!!!

 

                                                                                 

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Jaz,

I'm afraid the only vegetable I have much knowledge of growing from seed (sown early, indoors) is good old tomatoes!  I did do a quick search for you and came up with this tid bit:

sow the eggplant seed sow the seed evenly. i perfer not to cover the seed but if you want you can cover the seed lightly with germination mix. Then take the flat of newly sowed seeds and mist the entire flat and put the flat on the propagation mat at a temperature of 70-75 degrees.

It usually takes about 5- 10 days for the seed to germinate.

http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-grow-egg-plant-from-seed

or, try these from Answers.com:

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=HOw+to+grow+Eggplant+f rom+seed&gwp=13



These take a long time from seed to harvest so you would probably be better off buying a couple of plants. I do understand your desire to want to grow all your own veggies from seed to finished product, but some items are best if someone else does the growing of seeds and you take over with the transplants.

I decided to grow a tomato plant this year, more to see if I still could than any other reason.  I don't have yard space so it has to grow in a large container and since it is only me, I figured a cherry tomato would do for me.  So I went to Park Seed and found this interesting Chocolate Cherry Tomato seed, purchased a packet and sowed all of three seeds thinking I would cull the puny ones.  There weren't any puny ones and all three germinated. One plant is enough for me so I gave the other two to my neighbors.  My plant and the one at my nearest neighbors have blooms already, so we shall soon be eating cherry tomatoes.

After growing these tiny tomato seedlings into decent sized transplants I had a few potatoes sprout on me, so I sliced them up into "sets" with good eyes and planted 3 "sets" to each of two very large tubs I filled with compost and sweepings from my potting area.  I also have 6 potato plants up and growing in their tubs.  That wasn't enough so I plants a few more "sets" in a corner of a temporary daylily bed and a good many of them have also come up.  I should have plenty of potatoes for my own needs this fall!

Others may have more experience with growing various veggies from seed that I do - sure wouldn't take much! And hopefully they will reply. Be sure you are clicking on all the links I have been adding and following them on to even more information.

Sorry I wasn't as helpful with the Eggplant problem.


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Hi REbecce, Thank you again for getting back to me! You have been such a great help and we sould all be greatful for the help we get! I know I am. Your right, I sould buy the eggplant and start it from that point, because it's getting late in the season to start from a seed.I'll study what I have to do and and try again next year. In the meanwhile, I'll have fun with my very first garden! I'm going to go to your links and check them out!!!!!! I'm getting into this so much! Sue and Elaine were so kind to resond to my postings! I thank you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

                                                                          

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Posted: May 26 2009 at 6:42am | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

Jaz,

There are so many veggies one CAN grow from seed as well as ones that can be started early, indoors under lights or in the window, that having to buy a plant or two of the longer season varieties just makes sense.

Then there are all those lovely veggies that are direct sown and if one times things right, several plantings can be made (corn, beans, lettuce, cabbage and their kin, etc)  It is very fulfilling to be able to grow your own food and be able to preserve the surplus for winter.  It is also very fulfilling to be able to donate surplus produce to the various food pantries. It works that way with whatever "crop" one grows.  Gardening is is very beneficial in so many ways and is one of few activities that can touch more people than just the gardener. (And it really doesn't matter what the "crop" is, veggies, fruits or flowers!)

Do check out all the links and when other questions come up remember there are more search engines that just Yahoo or Google. Answers.com is very good as is Wikipedia. Of course it isn't as much fun as asking others for their experiences and that is still a very useful "tool" plus it gives information that is not always found by doing general information searches.

Saving seeds from season to season can be tricky!  Store bought produce is not a good source for some veggies as the "fruits" are often harvested in a "green" state and the seeds hae not always reached  that point of maturity where they are viable.  Tomato seeds can be "iffy" for the same reason. HOWEVER, if you get produce from a roadside stand, where the produce is picked by hand at the peak of ripeness, then you have a very good chance of getting some great seeds!  Especially heirloom Tomatoes.

Produce that should not be grown fro saved seeds would be the melons, squash and "gourds" as they will all cross pollinate and the resulting "offspring" can be very different! These would be cantaloupes, muskmelon, watermelon, zucchini, cucumbers, acorn and other "Squash" and pumpkins.

Also remember that fruit from trees grown form saved seeds will not be the same as the fruit the seeds came from, these fruits can be very good though.  I know we had an apple tree that my older brother grew from a saved seed as a child and years later (YEARS), when we would return to our Grandparents home at harvest time we got to eat some of those apples. Perhaps not the greatest for eating out of hand, but they were the best for cooking with.  Made great pies!  That "each Tree may not yield peaches, especially if there were plum trees also growing in the area, but the fruits could be quite delectable.

OK, that should be enough "food for thought" for now.  You need to be getting all of your seedlings in the ground and then the real time consuming part of gardening happens, weeding the veggie patch!





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Posted: May 26 2009 at 2:45pm | IP Logged Quote jaztae

  Hi Rebbeca, You've been such a great help to me! I understand everything you've said. I just want to make sure I'm suppose to plant my baby plants at this time. The pepper plants are about 3 inchs and the tomato plants are 2-3 inchs. Is it time yet? Please let me know and how sould I prepare for planting in the grown? How do I protect such small plants? I will not plant until I know what to do.

 

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Posted: May 26 2009 at 3:55pm | IP Logged Quote Rebecca

Jaz,

You must first harden the plants off to get them accustomed to being outside and in full sun and then you can plant them.  I am very concerned about their size however and if they will have enough growing time to be able to bear and mature any peppers or tomatoes for you.

My tomato plants were about 14" tall when I took them out to harden them off and several more inches taller when they were planted. That was 2 to 3 weeks ago and I started the seeds back in February.  Tomatoes take nearly 3 months from seed to ripe fruit, same with peppers so you have to time your planting and sowing so the plants have time.

Check out PARK SEED GARDENER'S HANDBOOK, it is running over with information on all aspects of gardening and has just about any topic you'd care to read , even one for Tomatoes, Peppers and Eggplants (under "Know Before You Grow").

I did start my tomato seeds under shop lights, but I don't use any "special" tubes, just warm white and cool white. and the shelves I use were freebies when a restaurant I worked at closed.  Gardening under lights can be very simple or you can get very creative and use all kinds of fancy set ups.  The KISS principal works really well for what I need the lights to do.

Anyway, Jaz, I am happy to have been of help and even happier to see others have chimed in with even more helpful information for you.

Hey are you sure those seedlings are only 2-3 inches tall?  I thought they were already up and growing when you first posted a month ago?


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