Posted: October 31 2009 at 8:24pm | IP Logged

I have this seedling marked as Missouri Memories x Party Pinafore from Clumboy.  We had LOTS of rain in August and now I have this.  It isn't a very remarkable bloom except that it's the one and only daylily blooming now.  A few buds got nipped by the 40s and 50s a week and a half ago, but it was blooming yesterday, and it looked like it will open another bud tomorrow.  It's a third year seedling that did NOT bloom late in its second year.  Sure would be great if it were to turn out to be consistent.  MM and PP both have EZ--is this a likely result from that cross, or do you think I've got a mislabeled seedling?  Here it is on 10-14-09:

10/28/09:

Posted: November 01 2009 at 7:43pm | IP Logged

You know, I've never noticed that faint halo in the garden.  Funny how pictures help us to see the details better.  Thanks for the suggestion Chris!  I don't have that one, but it will be a fun assignment to look for something this winter to put with it.  I crossed this polymerous (about 70%) bloomer on it.  I've always liked the flower, but the budcount is stinky!!!  It's a polychrome and BIG, so maybe I'll get a late pink polymerous one.  I can hope, can't I?

Edit--I see I've got the red x here.  I've had to get a new computer and haven't finished transferring files.   So I'll try to link to an earlier thread. 

http://forums.tinkersgardens.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8846&am p;am p;KW=luvdlilies

And I need to double check my list, but I think I crossed this to it as well:

http://forums.tinkersgardens.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12549&a mp;KW=luvdlilies

Posted: November 05 2009 at 8:23pm | IP Logged

Thanks for the input Chris.  The only thing about the red, (which is actually a deep pink), is that it isn't a rebloomer.  The peach does rebloom (the immediate variety) and when crossed with Give Me 8 produced unremarkable blooms, slightly better budcount, but with rebloom.  So I'm hoping that trait came from the seedling because Give Me 8 doesn't rebloom for me.   Since I wasn't paying much attention to this plant, I'm not sure how many scapes it put up the first time.  It's a good sized clump--probably 15 fans or so, but I just don't remember how many scapes at all.  The flower wasn't unique, but I loved its substance.  I'll definitely be keeping records next year, because if I'm not mistaken this is actually its 3rd bloom cycle.  I'm still on the hunt for a suitor-- matchmaking is great fun!  Here's a face shot from 9/25 that shows the nice green throat:

And for fun, here's a pretty one that was blooming the same day.  Ned Robert's Singin in the Sunshine.  It put up just this one rebloom scape, and was so pretty all during September!!

Posted: November 05 2009 at 8:35pm | IP Logged

It's amazing to me how much the flower seemed to morph as the weather got cooler.  I had forgotten how recurved it was when the weather was still nice and warm.  Plus--where is that faint halo??  These are absolutely all from the same plant!!  It's the only thing that's been blooming despite the fact that everybody else had equal access to all the August rain.

Posted: November 06 2009 at 6:03am | IP Logged

love the yellow--what a lovely green throat.  don't you have some kids from THE JURYS OUT , or TJO itself?  i would make that cross.  you might not get a real whoop de do flower in the first generation, but you will get lateness, and lovely budcount and branching.  i have also gotten some nice "almost" cascades from first generation crosses of TJO X LILTING BELLE,  and the color of TJO will let go--not completely, but you can wind up with a nice polychrome, so a cross with this clean yellow and green throat should give you something nice to work with that is late.  the main thing you will see is a beautiful scape and budcount--TJO very reliably passes that on.

i would freeze pollen from your pink baby and try it with rebloomers that are earlier next year.  my main concern for this one is the scape to fan ratio (my term--not meant to be high falutin'--just descriptive).  that is something that i am trying very hard to select for--its not as easy with dips--you can't typically get a scape on every fan, but i like for the plant to be a balanced mix of fans and scapes. 

here are two seedlings from TJO X LILTING BELLE--you can't see the scapes--trust me, they were nice--this is just to show you the form i got from the cross.  as you can see the color let go to some extent, got a big old midrib, but the blooms were a very nice size--much larger than TJO, not as big as LB.  height on the scapes was also good--probably about 30" or so--taller than i would have expected.  i think these began flowering near the middle of the late season, and continued into the very late.

chris

Posted: November 06 2009 at 9:37am | IP Logged

Love the polychrome on the left.  Polychromes just ad a depth of color that is hard to beat.

Your "scape to fan ratio" is an interesting viewpoint.  I've never even considered it.  Can you give us more of your thoughts and observations on this?  I'd like to watch for this trait, too, if I understand what I'm watching for! 

Posted: November 06 2009 at 4:58pm | IP Logged

Chris, why have I never noticed this?  Thank you so much for explaining your viewpoint to me.  Now I have something else to look at and to note!  Yes, I agree that it would be an unhappy looking plant that was all bottom and no top! 

Maybe mine are too crowded to have noticed this?  I'm so wanting to have daylilies 3' apart!  Today I went through some old film and paper pictures, tossing those that are no longer here.  I'm trying to resist going through the trash now!    Those photos sure did look sweet where the daylilies didn't cover the garden in mass!

Posted: November 07 2009 at 6:27am | IP Logged

Chris--thank you so much for sharing!!  I do! have some TJO seedlings.  Never thought about putting them with Singing in the Sunshine.  This was only the second year for SIS here.  What a great cross that would be!  I love your polychrome too!! 

I should have payed more attention to scape to fan ratio all along.  I took this shot of Broadway Jewel precisely because I so admire the balance this plant has when at full clump.  It's a wonderful sight during bloom season!  I should print it and carry it with me when I'm looking at seedlings. 

Posted: November 07 2009 at 8:15am | IP Logged

that is a lovely clump, sharon!  carrying the pic with you is a good idea. i have a notebook i carry into the rows with me, and your idea is a good one.  i think i will tape pics of my "ideal" on the covers, so i am constantly reminded of what i am looking for.  you don't have to match it, just keep the feeling in front of you.  the wide branching is also lovely on this plant.  like i said before, a lot of plants look similar to this--the trick is to look for it, and notice when it isn't there.  i think plants like this are beautiful in two ways--of course when the blooms are open, but also when you look at all those waiting buds and see the promise of the future.  its kind of an unconscious thing to regular folks that aren't looking closely at branching and budcount, but i think it is something that you sense when you look at the plant, regardless.  and there are enough nice leaves here to anchor the plant to the ground--so it doesn't look precariously top heavy.

judyann--crowding DOES make this trait so much harder to evaluate.  you can get a feel for those that are exceptionally good or bad, even in tight quarters--and sometimes that is enough to go on.   chris