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A picture is worth a thousand words, huh Ron?
What concerns me is that with so much of the breeding focus on tets, and on converting diploids to tets, who is to carry on with the work of these fancy smanchy dips? It was 17 months ago (can't believe it was that long ago!) when Bob had that near fatal heart attack, and there were real concerns that he would recover and be able to continue his work. Their situation is such that his seedlings leave the nursery even before registration. Some offered on the website look to be 09 bloomers. Without the volunteer work of an older church member, they would have had to close the nursery.
Its when someone comes along like this that you just wish there was some way you could lift their troubles away and say, "Full speed ahead!"
As far as dips vs tets, all you have to do is look at the parentage of the very round full form tets and within a generation or two back, you'll see converted dips. It was the converted dips that gave that leap to tetraploid breeding, which seemed to be stuck with less than full form.
Its a lot easier to get UF's in the seedling bed than it is to get full forms. I'm not talking about science or genetics. Just personal experience.
Once you have a taste of Ellison ruffles, it's hard to look away. Tom Wilson was getting some of that look, and Bob Ellison was using some of his cultivars in the beginning. Bob didn't have TOMMY BRYAN, and I sent him some. I offered to send John Shooter some, but he declined because he is of the opinion that some Wilson cultivars are rotters. Well, after I promised these fans, I did experience some rot problems with TOMMY BRYAN. But I'm always concerned that it was my culture or something I had done, so I'm not attaching that label to TOMMY BRYAN. I sent TOMMY BRYAN to Bob just prior to his heart attack, and I haven't had the courage to ask if it survived through that period. Another Wilson that has MARIETTA MOMENTO-type substance and texture is ROSE MARY DIXON, and it reblooms and has wonderful branching. It came to me in trade from a Tinker's member, and I really didn't appreciate it until this year. We just shouldn't judge a daylily until we have it in place at least three years.
This year I looked at my budget and added a few inexpensive Wilson's and other diploids that lean toward this sort of ruffle and edge. I have only a very very few Ellison diploids. John Shooter is the big name in diploid breeding now, but Robert Ellison is the "King of Ruffles".
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Judy Ann
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Topic: Tets versus Diploids
